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Q3-2025 Earnings Call

AI Summary
Earnings Call on Nov 12, 2025

Traffic Outperformance: Comparable traffic grew 3.2% in Q3, surpassing the ABCR Index, driven by heavy vehicle growth and soybean exports.

Strong Profitability: Adjusted EBITDA rose 23% to BRL 1.5 billion for the quarter with a margin above 76%, and net income reached BRL 430 million.

Cost Efficiency: Adjusted cash costs fell 3.6% in Q3, outpacing inflation and improving the cash cost/revenue ratio to 24.7%.

CapEx Execution: BRL 1.3 billion invested this quarter; full-year 2025 CapEx is now expected at BRL 4.6 billion (lower than prior BRL 5 billion outlook), with normalization to BRL 5.5 billion projected for 2026.

Debt Management: Leverage stood at 3.8x; average debt maturity extended to 8 years, and BRL 1.25 billion in new debentures issued in November.

Digital Toll Growth: Electronic toll collection reached 93% of total revenue, up from 58% five years ago.

Guidance & Outlook: Profitability and margin improvement expected to continue, driven by operational efficiency and tariff adjustments. Leverage is expected to rise temporarily from Q2 2026 due to CapEx and loss of Ecosul EBITDA.

Traffic Trends

Comparable traffic increased by 3.2% in the quarter and 4.1% year-to-date, outpacing the ABCR Index. Growth was particularly strong in heavy vehicle traffic, supported by expanded roads, soybean exports, and investments in highway capacity. Management expects continued traffic growth, particularly as new projects are delivered.

Cost Efficiency

Adjusted cash costs fell 3.6% in Q3 and 2% year-to-date, despite inflation of 5.17%, highlighting effective cost control. The cash cost to net revenue ratio declined to 24.7% YTD, driven by efficiency programs. Management targets further improvement, aiming for a ratio as low as 18-20% by 2030 through ongoing digitalization and operational initiatives.

CapEx Execution

Quarterly investments totaled BRL 1.3 billion, with BRL 4.6 billion projected for full-year 2025—lower than the earlier BRL 5 billion target due to delays in large projects from licensing issues. These delays will shift some CapEx to 2026, with expectations of BRL 5.5 billion for that year. Management is pursuing efficiencies through value engineering and procurement, but expects CapEx to remain steady, not significantly reduced.

Leverage & Debt Management

Leverage stood at 3.8x net debt/EBITDA by quarter-end, with pro-forma leverage stable at 3.6x. Debt management strategies increased average maturity from 5.7 to 8 years and raised the share of debt indexed to IPCA. BRL 1.25 billion in debentures was issued in November. Leverage is expected to rise from Q2 2026 with increased CapEx and loss of Ecosul EBITDA, peaking through 2027-2028 before declining.

Tariff Adjustments

Several concessions, including Araguaia and Ecovias Capixaba, saw tariff increases linked to project delivery and contract amendments. These adjustments are designed to offset investment delays and are considered sustainable for modeling future revenues. Management expects continued benefit from tariff triggers as new works are delivered.

Digitalization & Toll Collection

Electronic toll collection reached 93% of total toll revenue in Q3, up from 58% five years ago. Initiatives to educate users and implement free-flow gantries have reduced delinquency rates significantly. The company sees this as a key area for continued efficiency and revenue stability.

Capital Allocation & Strategic Focus

EcoRodovias remains selective about new investments, focusing on current portfolio execution and existing CapEx commitments. While monitoring federal and state concession opportunities, there are no immediate plans for aggressive expansion. The company is prioritizing value creation from ongoing projects and contract amendments.

Sustainability & ESG

EcoRodovias was again included in the B3 Diversity Index portfolio and launched new initiatives such as plant-based biofuel testing and a biodiversity conservation plan. Several concessions received GRI Awards, underlining a continued focus on ESG practices.

Comparable Traffic Growth
3.2%
Guidance: Expected to end the year at 3.5–4% growth; 2026 projected at 3%.
Adjusted EBITDA
BRL 1.5 billion
Change: Up 23%.
Adjusted EBITDA Margin
76%
Guidance: Expected to remain slightly above 80%, potentially up to 86% in the coming years.
Net Income (attributable to controlling shareholders)
BRL 430 million
No Additional Information
Adjusted Net Revenue
BRL 2 billion
No Additional Information
Cash Costs over Adjusted Net Revenue
24.7% year-to-date
Change: Down 2.8 percentage points vs 2024, 10.6 percentage points vs 2022.
Guidance: Aiming for 18–20% by 2030.
Investments (CapEx) – Q3
BRL 1.3 billion
Guidance: Full-year 2025 forecast at BRL 4.6 billion; BRL 5.5 billion projected for 2026.
Investments (CapEx) – 9 months
BRL 3.4 billion
No Additional Information
Net Debt/EBITDA
3.8x
Change: Slight reduction quarter-on-quarter.
Guidance: Expected to rise from Q2 2026 and peak through 2027–2028 before declining.
Average Debt Maturity
8 years
Change: Up from 5.7 years in Dec 2024.
Electronic Toll Collection Share
93%
Change: Up 9.3 percentage points year-on-year; up 35 points from 2020.
Comparable Traffic Growth
3.2%
Guidance: Expected to end the year at 3.5–4% growth; 2026 projected at 3%.
Adjusted EBITDA
BRL 1.5 billion
Change: Up 23%.
Adjusted EBITDA Margin
76%
Guidance: Expected to remain slightly above 80%, potentially up to 86% in the coming years.
Net Income (attributable to controlling shareholders)
BRL 430 million
No Additional Information
Adjusted Net Revenue
BRL 2 billion
No Additional Information
Cash Costs over Adjusted Net Revenue
24.7% year-to-date
Change: Down 2.8 percentage points vs 2024, 10.6 percentage points vs 2022.
Guidance: Aiming for 18–20% by 2030.
Investments (CapEx) – Q3
BRL 1.3 billion
Guidance: Full-year 2025 forecast at BRL 4.6 billion; BRL 5.5 billion projected for 2026.
Investments (CapEx) – 9 months
BRL 3.4 billion
No Additional Information
Net Debt/EBITDA
3.8x
Change: Slight reduction quarter-on-quarter.
Guidance: Expected to rise from Q2 2026 and peak through 2027–2028 before declining.
Average Debt Maturity
8 years
Change: Up from 5.7 years in Dec 2024.
Electronic Toll Collection Share
93%
Change: Up 9.3 percentage points year-on-year; up 35 points from 2020.

Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to EcoRodovias' Third Quarter of 2025 Earnings Presentation. With us here today are Marcello Guidotti, CEO; and Andrea Fernandes, CFO. This presentation is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] The slides for this presentation are available on the company's Investor Relations website at ri.ecorodovias.com.br in the Results Center section. After the end of the earnings presentation, the recording will be available in the same section.

Before proceeding, we would like to clarify that the forward-looking statements that may be made during this presentation relating to EcoRodovias' business prospects, projections and operational and financial targets are based on the management's beliefs and assumptions as well as on currently available information. They involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions as they refer to future events and hence, depend on circumstances that may or may not occur. Investors should understand that general economic conditions, industry conditions and other operating factors may affect the future performance of EcoRodovias and lead to results that differ materially from those expressed in such forward-looking statements.

I will now turn the floor over to Andrea Fernandes, who will discuss the results. Andrea, you may proceed.

A
Andrea Fernandes
executive

Good morning. Welcome to EcoRodovias' Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Presentation. We thank you all for attending. We start the presentation with the highlights of the period. Comparable traffic grew 3.2% in the quarter and 4.1% in the 9 months of 2025. In comparison, the ABCR Index posted an increase of 2% in the quarter and 2.3% year-to-date. Adjusted cash costs, excluding Ecoporto, whose operation is under its transition agreement and provisions related to the signing of Ecovias Capixaba's contractual amendment decreased 3.6% in the quarter and 2% in the 9 months, while inflation in the last 12 months was 5.17%, demonstrating for another quarter, EcoRodovias' efficient cost management.

Adjusted EBITDA reached BRL 1.5 billion in the quarter and BRL 4.1 billion in the 9 months with a margin in Q3 of more than 76%. Net income attributable to controlling shareholders reached BRL 430 million in the quarter and BRL 781 million year-to-date. These numbers already reflect the effects of another highlight of the period, which was the signing in August of the contractual amendment for the modernization of the Ecovias Capixaba concession agreement with a concession term of 24 years, new investment conditions, reclassification and staged increase of toll rates and the readjustment of the internal rate of return.

In October, Ecovias Leste Paulista signed the contractual amendment that extended the concession term for another 3 years and 4 months. This rebalancing considered the investments that were not foreseen in the agreement already made by the concessionaire in the extension works of the Carvalho Pinto highway.

To conclude the highlights, we invested BRL 1.3 billion in the quarter and BRL 3.4 billion in the 9 months, delivering 54 kilometers of road widening, additional lanes and frontage roads.

On Slide 5, we present the operational performance, highlighting the increase of 4.5% in comparable heavy vehicle traffic in the quarter and 5.5% year-to-date. This performance mainly reflects the growth at Ecovias Norte Minas, driven by the traffic increase resulting from the capacity expansion works carried out between 2023 and September 2025, totaling 143 kilometers of widened roads, additional lanes and frontage roads. In the Ecovias Minas Goiás, Ecovias Imigrantes and Ecovias Cerrado concessions, the increase in traffic was driven by the advance of soybean exports.

Moving on to Slide 6. we show adjusted net revenue of BRL 2 billion in the quarter and BRL 5.5 billion year-to-date due to the growth in vehicle traffic, toll tariff adjustments and the start of toll collection by the Ecovias Raposo Castello concession and in 3 new plazas on Ecovias Noroeste Paulista.

On Slide 7, we highlight the implementation of the third free flow gantry for electronic toll collection at Ecovias Noroeste Paulista as of November 1 in the municipality of Dobrada in São Paulo. The chart on the left shows the reduction in delinquency from 6.9% in September 2024 to 3.7% in August 2025. It is important to note that 100% of the delinquency is rebalanced by the granting authority in this concession contract. Additionally, we highlight that Ecovias Noroeste Paulista has developed since April 2024, campaigns to inform and guide users about the change in toll collection system through social media posts, influencers, local radio stations as well as visual communication on highways, such as signs, billboards, wrapping of toll plazas and distribution of information leaflets.

Finally, we highlight the 9.3 percentage points increase in toll collection by AVI and digital means which reached 93% of total toll collection revenue in the third quarter of 2025. 5 years ago, in the third quarter of 2020, electronic toll collection accounted for 58% of total toll revenue. Since then, we have recorded a significant growth of 35 percentage points in the adoption of electronic payment methods as well as the equivalent reduction in cash transactions.

On Slide 8, we demonstrate cash costs. The highlight was the reduction in adjusted cash costs of 3.6% in the quarter and 2% in the 9 months, excluding Ecoporto and the provisions related to the sign of the contractual amendment of Ecovias Capixaba. This reduction is mainly due to lower expenses with conservation and maintenance due to the higher level of services in the same period of the previous year. Normalizing the schedule of these services, adjusted cash costs would have increased 1.3% in the third quarter of 2025 and would have remained stable in the 9 months.

In addition, we present cash costs over adjusted net revenue, which reached 24.7% year-to-date, down 2.8 percentage points compared to 2024 and 10.6 percentage points compared to 2022, reflecting the various efficiency and innovation initiatives adopted by the company. We also highlight the integration of Ecovias Noroeste Paulista into the São Paulo operation center, which started to cover all 4 concessions in the state being responsible for monitoring almost half of EcoRodovias' traffic.

On Slide 9, consolidated adjusted EBITDA reached BRL 1.5 billion in the quarter and BRL 4.1 billion in the 9 months, up 23% and 19%, respectively, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 76% in the quarter and 75% year-to-date. The highlight was the adjusted EBITDA margin of highway concessions, which reached 77% in the quarter.

On the next slide, we demonstrate net income, the result of our sound operating performance and efficient cost management, demonstrated by the increase in EBITDA in addition to the effects registered at Ecovias Capixaba. The result was also influenced by robust investments in expansion and improvements in our highway concessions as well as the scenario of high interest rates.

On Slide 12, investments totaled BRL 1.3 billion in the quarter and BRL 3.4 billion in the 9 months with the delivery of 54 kilometers of widened roads, additional lanes and frontage roads in addition to the implementation of 10 overpasses and 16 intersections.

Next slide, we have the evolution of the works throughout the quarter. The highlights are the delivery of road widening works at Ecovias Capixaba and Ecovias Minas Goiás and the progress in the expansion works at Ecovias Rio Minas, Noroeste Paulista, Araguaia and Norte Minas.

Moving on to Slide 14. We demonstrate that the successful debt management strategy resulted in a more efficient capital structure and aligned with cash generation from assets. In September, the net debt of highway concessions reached 69% of total net debt compared to only 41% in 2022. In line with expectations, we ended the quarter with consolidated leverage of 3.8x, while pro forma leverage calculated based on the adjusted annualized EBITDA of Ecovias Raposo Castello remained stable at 3.6x. Another relevant point was the increase in debt indexed to the IPCA, reinforcing the alignment between the debt profile and the toll tariff adjustment index.

Next slide. The implementation of the debt management strategy resulted in the contracting of more than BRL 20 billion in structured financing in 2025 and increased the average debt maturity from 5.7 years in December 2024 to 8 years in September 2025. As shown in the debt amortization schedule, we ended the quarter with 83% of maturities as of 2029, in addition to BRL 11.5 billion in financing still to be disbursed in the coming years according to the construction schedule. In addition, in November, we issued BRL 1.250 billion in debentures at EcoRodovias Infraestrutura e Logística, further strengthening our cash position.

Finally, on Slide 17, we present the main sustainability highlights of the period. EcoRodovias was once again selected to be part of the B3 Diversity Index portfolio, reinforcing our commitment to the diversity and inclusion agenda. We also started testing 100% plant-based biofuel in the service truck fleet at Ecovias Noroeste Paulista and launched the EcoRodovias Biodiversity Conservation Plan and some of our concessions received the GRI Awards.

We conclude this presentation, reinforcing our commitment to move forward with the works to expand capacity and improve highway concessions and generate value from our current portfolio. We maintain operational efficiency, innovation and safety as pillars of our journey.

We would now like to move on to the questions-and-answer session.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question, Fernanda Recchia, BTG.

F
Fernanda Recchia
analyst

Two points here to explore with you. First, thinking about profitability. And congratulations on the work you've been doing to reduce cash cost over revenue that we saw the indicator went from 35% to 28%. I'd like to understand what we should consider for the evolution of these indicators going forward. Do you have more initiatives mapped out to continue to reduce this indicator? Or if you can give us any metrics going forward, what we should expect?

And the second point about capital allocation. We had some important bids in Paraná. This week, there was also autopistas that we saw EcoRodovias did not submit a proposal. There are still some important assets to go to auction this year and the beginning of next year. So what's your mindset? And how should we consider the allocation of EcoRodovias in the coming projects?

M
Marcello Guidotti
executive

Fernanda, this is Marcello. Thank you for your questions. About profitability, this improvement comes from cost reductions and optimization of structures, operational efficiency. It also comes from traffic and revenue with triggers that are being received. So all of that indicates that going forward, we should continue to reduce this margin, increasing efficiency because we will definitely continue with our digital transformation agenda, cost efficiency, and we should also have a lot of tariff triggers as well and other concessions due to the works and the tariff triggered for widened roads. We expect to get to 2030 with an index at around 20% or slightly below that, 18%. So that's the expectation. Again, connected to 2 streams, the tariff adjustments that will occur and operational efficiency.

About capital allocation, we continue to be very selective. We don't have any investment decisions. We keep track of the federal programs and state programs. It's going well. There's a lot of competition and competition that has been very competitive. We are monitoring. And for 2026, we'll be prepared. There will be other opportunities. But also going forward, we don't have a defined strategy in the short term. We remain focused on our current portfolio with so much CapEx to realize and amendments that are potential in São Paulo and other contracts.

Operator

Next question, Filipe Nielsen with Citi.

F
Filipe Ferreira Nielsen
analyst

I have two points here. The first about CapEx. I'd like to understand a little bit more how you see the execution. We were talking on previous calls, and you were mentioning about a level closer to BRL 5 billion for this year. I'd like to understand if the BRL 5 billion level is still feasible, if there will be an acceleration in the fourth quarter? Or if we should see this execution even within what you report historically, slightly below budget, which is normal, but whether the surplus should be transferred for next year or if there's a level of efficiency improvement in this point as well?

And then my second point about liability management. We've been seeing all the work you're doing. Actually, congratulations on how you're leading this process. But I'd like to understand whether the level of indebtedness at the holding. If we look quarter-on-quarter, it actually increased slightly this quarter and maybe now with the issuance of October, maybe this level can increase a little bit more in the fourth quarter. So I'd like to understand how you see this level for 2026, if it should still go up before it goes down or if you already consider a short-term reduction?

M
Marcello Guidotti
executive

Filipe, this is Marcello. About CapEx, Today, we have the expectation of reaching BRL 4.6 billion by the end of the year. So this is mostly due to the later beginning of some large major works at Rio Minas, Araguaia, Noroeste, in particular, due to delays in the receiving of environmental licenses, which are now all issued. So probably part of this delay will be transferred for next year. So next year, we estimate something between BRL 5.5 billion in CapEx, and that will be normalized. So we maintain this expectation of those values.

Efficiencies are being sought in CapEx with value engineering, governance and CapEx. But to maintain CapEx under control, there won't be a lot of CapEx variation. No major reduction of CapEx due to the efficiencies. Efficiencies need to be sought to maintain the CapEx level for us to be able to execute it. That's the main value creator, the timely execution and there's triggers going up in tariff adjustments, as I mentioned, and traffic induction. About the financing, Andrea will give you more details on your second question.

A
Andrea Fernandes
executive

Filipe, as for liability management, we had a series of operations last year and this year, improving and optimizing the capital structure of the group, making the allocations as we had the financing, the long-term financing, paying the bridge loans of some concessions that already structured their long-term financing. So that allowed us to optimize the structure, also increasing the average maturity of the debt that were below 6 years, and now it's closer to 8 years. We still have operations that will occur, and we have disbursements higher than above BRL 1 billion. We have already been contracted, but will start to be disbursed along with the CapEx execution in the concessions should get this index to get even better with an allocation higher than 70% in the coming years. So as we execute CapEx, this index will improve precisely because we have already contracted the financing, but the disbursement will take place over the next few years.

Operator

Next question, Rafael Simonetti at UBS.

R
Rafael Simonetti
analyst

Congratulations on the results. I have two quick questions here. The first one about Araguaia. You mentioned a 1.6% increase in the tariff in October due to the factor C and D, if you can mention something about this and the possible normalization of the concession. And the contractual CapEx, the commitments are close to BRL 4 billion and the Ecovias Raposo still missing. And my question is what you see in terms of the amount of investment for that concession.

M
Marcello Guidotti
executive

Rafael, about Araguaia factor D, what comprises the tariff is a set of different indicators in the IPCA, and we've been applying factor C, factor D throughout the year, and that materializes in the tariff. But part of it is due to the delays, including those delays of the environmental licenses. So these are normal moves. I think that we could consider a normalized tariff because the D factor intends to rebalance delays of cash disbursement. So it's almost neutral, I'd say, in terms of cash disbursement and tariffs. So I think for modeling purposes, it could be normalized, maintaining the CapEx schedule normal with no delays.

About the contractual CapEx, we expect Ecovias Raposo Castello to come in with approximately BRL 7.8 billion that will be incorporated, leading -- taking the total CapEx to BRL 51.8 billion in total until the end of all concessions. So that's a CapEx with a strong maintenance conservation component. It's not all expansion CapEx. It's not all concentrated in the next few years. It's CapEx that includes technology, the position of technology infrastructure, maintenance, conservation and expansion that, as I said, are what lead to triggers or tariff triggers. But our numbers are very much under control with no expectations of any further changes. We updated all of the CapEx regularly based on the IPCA level. So we're very comfortable with the execution and the fit this CapEx has with our business plan.

Operator

Next question. Daniel Gasparete, Itaú BBA.

D
Daniel Gasparete
analyst

I have two questions as well. First, to go back a little bit to what you mentioned earlier about CapEx. Guidotti, you talked a little bit about the efficiencies. I'd like to explore it a little further, maybe FX or what we can think about potential efficiencies to be achieved in CapEx, if there's any upside of having a decrease in FX. And the second is to talk about the third lane or third road at Imigrantes, what you're considering in the next steps and your expectations.

M
Marcello Guidotti
executive

Thank you for your questions, Daniel. About the CapEx efficiencies, again, CapEx is a very broad set of different lines. Each of the lines have different efficiency strains. For example, the materials, the application of amendments, there's all of the work being developed to reach efficiencies not only in costs, but also in the durability and comfort, the use of recycled asphalt component and all the initiatives and different numbers being applied. And all of that, not -- if not to reduce cost, at least not to have an impact due to an increase in price of the asphalt material as we saw in 2021, for example, that affected the initial works at Araguaia. So all of that are ways for you to control or seek efficiency and gains, but also to control the inputs and the prices of inputs. There's technologies as well that we seek locally, but there's also imports and making organized purchases of procurement for all concessions trying to bargain for better prices.

That may not bring huge savings, but it keeps the price rising under control. And then we have all the work in value engineering that is done regularly. And then, of course, we could have positive surprises if there are better alternatives detected. Major alternatives and value engineering studies are being carried out in the works that will begin in Raposo Castello's agreement, which would allow for potential gains. We don't have anything concluded, but we are studying in particular, that contract.

About the third lane, the third road, everything is going well. We're meeting the time line agreed on with the concession authority. Our obligation today, as a reminder, is to deliver a complete executive study with the environmental licenses by mid next year. And that's with the contract amendments that will be rebalanced and the works are going very well. We are being able to go through all the stages. And next year, I believe we will have time to discuss how this will be done and at what time this investment will be made and whether there will be an amendment to Ecovias contract. And at that time, we are focused on advancing the studies. We still have a lot of work ahead. but everything is going well.

Operator

Next question, Gabriel [indiscernible], Bank of America.

U
Unknown Analyst

I have a question about traffic performance for yet another country. It is a positive surprise. So if you can talk about not only your expectations for traffic increase in the coming months, but also to remember or remind us whether on the short term, at least next year, you should deliver any widened road or any work that could bring such a strong traffic increase such as we saw in Norte Minas in recent periods.

A
Andrea Fernandes
executive

Gabriel, thank you for your question. Thinking about 2025, what really drove traffic, this traffic increase in the deliveries that as we conclude widened roads and deliver works that happens very strongly at Norte Minas this year. And this is something that we also expect to occur with Ecovias Capixaba. I think that heavy vehicle traffic has been surprising even the company every month. And I think the soybean exports were very strong during the third quarter. And during the third quarter, I think we'll still benefit from that. And our expectation is to end the year pretty much in line with what we saw in terms of the numbers in the third quarter.

So something close to 3.5%, 4%. Noting that this year had a strong impact of this long winter that we had. And the light vehicle traffic was affected because of that. I mean, it's November already, and there are still some cold days or chill days, but we're also benefiting a lot from heavy vehicle traffic. So year after year, we've been seeing sustained growth compared to previous years with significant growth even higher than what we saw from -- in the year 2025.

Thinking about 2026, our projection is of something around 3% considering a GDP, as we've been seeing in the projections of GDP at around 1.5%. But we continue and we have deliveries in other concessions during 2026 that may drive traffic as well as the harvest. There are some regions, some highways that benefits greatly from the harvest season. Of course, we saw some concessions that have a stronger impact of consumer goods that had a weaker performance, but we see that the harvest have been allowing along with the delivery of the road widening works and the investments, the traffic has been increasing. Traffic has been induced in the highways.

That's why we consider it so important to continue with our investment cycle because that also brings traffic. Our numbers are much higher, for example, than the ABCR index. So I think that CapEx, along with the quality of our portfolio, the distribution of the load that's very diverse brings a good performance to EcoRodovias' assets. Thank you for the question.

Operator

Next question, Matheus Sant'Anna from Bradesco.

M
Matheus Sant'Anna
analyst

I have two on my side. First, thinking about Eco101, actually now Ecovias Capixaba, this is a concession where the contract has a much stronger enforcement level in terms of the delivery of the works. So I'd like to understand, especially the part of the executive plan, licensing. I think it's too soon to start -- asking about the works themselves. And then the second question would be thinking that Ecosul concludes next year, and there's no public advanced negotiation with the government yet. How do you see this? Will there be a rebid of that asset? How do you see the scenario? Those are my questions.

M
Marcello Guidotti
executive

Matheus, thank you for your question. About Ecovias Capixaba, CapEx is -- it is true. The first 3 years are a transition period where the concessionaire is inspected through independent reports to fulfill 100% of the time line agreed and contract, and that was part of the agreement. And the good news is that we have pretty much everything ready. The licenses are already available. We are already opening some months ahead of schedule stretches where recently we released a 7-kilometer, actually 12-kilometer stretch, and we are ahead of schedule in the delivery of those CapEx very comfortably. We are concluding now contracting for next year. Another 60 kilometers. And again, we've been getting good responses from the market, good feedback from the subcontracting markets, a lot of people interested, large companies wanting to participate.

And now we're selecting them so that we can continue with the works next year, 2026. We have no licensing issues. And I think this transition period will be fulfilled smoothly. And obviously, reminding that these deliveries will also activate tariff triggers for the 2026. We already have a 28% tariff trigger for Ecovias Capixaba.

About Ecosul, we are operating it. The contract is concluded in March. Of course, the rebidding will not be immediate. There will be a period with no concession. We don't know if it's going to be another year or 2 in this process. Until March, we'll be there. And that's a discussion that the government has already indicated that the maintenance, not so much the operation, but the maintenance will be done with a [indiscernible] and the new concession will be a concession that we will analyze as we are analyzing all the others. No particular decisions. But until then, we will be operating the concession.

Operator

Next question, Julia Orsi with JPMorgan.

J
Julia Orsi
analyst

We have two points here on our side. The first is about leverage. We saw a slight reduction quarter-on-quarter getting to 3.8x. With that said, what's your expectation for the coming quarters? And the second point is a follow-up about profitability results. In the last call, I think we discussed the target of getting to an EBITDA margin close to 80% in the coming years. With that said, was there any change in this perspective?

M
Marcello Guidotti
executive

About indebtedness, and as Andrea said before, we'll realize CapEx capture the debt that's already contracted and the leverage tends to increase, in particular, starting from the second quarter of next year, we will no longer have Ecosul -- Ecovia Sul EBITDA, which was a strong EBITDA generation because it's a last [indiscernible], and then we're going to see a peak and starting with the second quarter, there will be a peak on leverage that will be normalized and getting to a higher level during '27, '28 because that's when the CapEx starts to build up.

And then starting in 2029, '30, it starts to go down. So it's an expected cycle, completely under control with no issues, but that's expected. The first quarter will still be a net debt over EBITDA comparable to 2025. But starting on the second quarter, once Ecosul is out, the level goes up and maintains at a higher level for the next 2.5, 3 years, okay?

About the second question, what was it? The EBITDA margin. Our number will be slightly above 80% until 86% of EBITDA margin, and that is maintained. I expect and believe we can aim at higher numbers.

Operator

The question-and-answer session is concluded. I would like to turn the floor to Ms. Andrea Fernandes for her closing remarks.

A
Andrea Fernandes
executive

Good morning. I'd like to thank you all for participating, and I -- and my team remain available for any further questions you have after the call. Thank you. Have a great day.

Operator

EcoRodovias' earnings presentation is concluded. We thank you all for your participation. Have a great day.

[Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]

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